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Marino has been labeled by many, and mislabeled by even more. Known
mostly for claiming that he was possessed by the ghostly spirit
of Jimi Hendrix while being hospitalized for a drug interlude, this
false stigma has haunted Marino throughout his entire career. Having
never bought into the story, my interpretation of Frank Marino &
Mahogany Rush music was always an impassioned one. Marino was always
a primal guitar player to me; a player that took a song and just
brutalized it with wicked licks of massive guitar fury. After growing
up with Marino's version of the Chuck Berry classic, "Johnny
B. Goode," from his "Frank Marino & Mahogany Rush
Live" album, I find every other version of the tune hard to
listen to, even to this very day. Intense and aggressive guitar
music was something that I have craved for many years now, and Marino
seems to be one of only a few players that can actually satisfy
my appetite. He began recording his debut record, "Maxoom,"
in 1971 at the tender age of 16. It wasn't long after that that
Marino started being recognized as one of the premier guitar players
of the time. But, on this evening as I sat with Marino in his dressing
room following a dynamic live set in Milwaukee, I discovered a man
that was so much more than just a guitar player.
As Marino offered me a stool and lit up a much needed smoke, he
seemed like a comfortable man surrounded by all of the things that
he cherishes in life; his family, his music, and his higher power
.not
in that order. He confidently states, "My list of priorities
goes like this God, family, music music is third on
the list." Watching his beautiful family, wife Denise and their
three daughters, contently passing the evening as any typical family
might in the backstage lounge area, you got a full understanding
of this man's life. With each daughter coming to embrace their father
with the affectionate sound of "I love you Daddy," it
was difficult to even focus on Marino's music. When I asked if he
brings the kids with him everywhere he plays, he told me he wouldn't
do it if he couldn't bring them along. As he told me more about
his daughters, and the values he tries to instill within them ("honor,
truth, Christ"), it was clear by their remarkable behavior
that the message was getting through. Rarely have I seen such well-behaved
and loving children as the ones I saw gathered around Frank Marino
on this night.
One of my first questions, even though it has worn out its welcome
at this point, was about the "Hendrix story." What is
the real Hendrix story? As Marino became defensive and bold, he
bluntly said, "What story? There is no story." He still
sounds angry as he tells me that a magazine made up the story and
"the whole thing snowballed." Some magazines printed an
accurate account of what Marino had said at the time. "I have
print of the true story," he said. "This is what Frank
Marino really said." "I explain the whole thing on the
website," he said. When I asked how the Frank Marino of 2006
differs from the Frank Marino of 1976, it basically came down to
one word - "freedom." He seemed elated to not be tied
down by a major label. "I'm not chasing a career now. I'm much
freer." When we started to talk about the 70's, the mood got
somber. "I don't remember the 70's. I wasn't happy in the 70's.
I never remember being happy in the 70's." It was at this point
that I thought I would ask about what we might find Frank listening
to as he goes from city to city, and the answer wasn't surprising.
"I have my Doors, Quicksilver, The Beatles." Are there
any new acts out there that appeal to you? "No," he said
with little hesitation. He expressed to me that the artists that
he just mentioned were enough for him, and he really saw no reason
to seek out anything new. "I'm still living in 1968."
He also told me that I might find him listening to Tony Bennett
if he's the one driving. "I love Tony Bennett." With so
many years of touring and playing live, I had to know what the most
memorable moment in his career was. "Those early high school
shows from '69 and '70." He told me that he loved the freedom,
and the idea that he played whatever he wanted. "Money ruined
music," he says. "I'm a 60's hippy. I still believe things
should be free."
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It
was time to talk about the music of Frank Marino and his live performances.
This is a man that has played to every size audience imaginable;
from hundreds of thousands (California Jam 2) to your local smoke-filled
taverns. Is it the big arenas or the small clubs that make Frank
Marino feel more at home? "The small club," he says. "It's
a lot easier to get sound right in the big arenas, because it's
the same every time." A concept that I never gave too much
thought to, but makes perfect sense. Every small club is a different
shape and size, and therefore the sound demands adjusting from venue
to venue. But, Marino was quick to tell me that he savors the intimate
relationship with his fans that he gets with the small club setting.
When we started to discuss playing live, there seemed to be a renewed
twinkle in Marino's eyes. I was told by many that he has been playing
three hour sets each night of the tour, so I decided to ask how
he might go about choosing a setlist for such a lengthy performance.
"There's never a setlist," he says. He told me how he
has a list of basically every song he could possibly play at his
feet. "I'll just look down during the set and choose one to
play." And speaking of things at his feet
The custom
pedal board that Marino uses was built entirely by the man himself.
"I know about electronics, so I go to the schematics and build
everything myself." Marino also stated emphatically that he
considers himself a musician, not a guitarist. "Guys like Joe
(Satriani)
and Steve (Vai), those guys are guitarists. They
really play guitar. I'm a musician. I try to use the guitar as a
tool to achieve many different sounds."
As we began to get more comfortable in our conversation, I could
see Marino was excited about something. He abruptly told me, "I'm
a closet pop fan, too. I have 80 pop songs recorded all hook
songs." And, although he was terribly excited to talk about
his passion for these songs, he seemed to think that his audience
would not welcome them. "I have to give the fans what they
want, and they come to hear Mahogany Rush songs." Hearing Marino
speak of his fans was like listening to a young child speak of a
parent that they love and adore. His first priority when he goes
onto a stage is to please his fans. When I assured him that the
fans would appreciate hearing something new and different, he seemed
to feel that he wasn't ready to take that chance quite yet. As he
passionately told me of an acoustic folk song that he had just written
as well, it was obvious that the creative juices were flowing for
Marino. He informed me that his song, entitled "Pride Of A
Man," had 13 verses, and was a social commentary. He said he
had thought about playing it in his set earlier in the evening,
but he just didn't think the fans would want to hear it. At that
point, he asked someone in the lounge area if his acoustic guitar
was nearby, and after a short trip to the van to unpack it, the
acoustic was entering the room. As Marino began to play the song,
I thought maybe this would be a good time to pinch myself. A rock
legend that I have admired since I was a child was sitting in front
of me playing a song that no other fan has heard. It was a moment
that reminded me of how much I value life. Seeing his excitement
with what he had achieved with "Pride Of A Man," I asked
him what the best song he had ever written was. He simply said,
"Probably that one, 'Pride of a Man.'"
I decided to put Marino on the spot with some word association to
end our session. He gave me extremely quick answers to the following
items:
Jimi
Hendrix With eyes rolling and a slight smile,
he says, "Trouble."
Hall
of Fame A big smile came over his face as he said,
"Phony." He says, "I don't want to seem like a bitter
guy." (Laughs)
Fans
"Lifeblood."
Family
"The world."
Retirement
He gave the surprising answer of "greatly wanted."
As he started to explain he said, "I just can't." He continued,
"People think I'm rich. (laughs) I still rent. We live a very
modest life." He also added, "It's hard for me to go into
a music store. They know it's me and the price goes up." When
I asked what he might do with his time if he was to retire, he told
me, "I would do the same thing. I would just play with my kids
at home."
So, what did I learn about my childhood guitar hero, Frank Marino,
after spending almost an hour talking to him? Well
..he's not
just a guitar hero but a musician, he was unhappy in the 70's, he
loves Tony Bennett, he just turned 52 this past November (2006),
and he is one of the most respectable human beings I've ever met.
The love for his family, his fans, his music, and his God is truly
remarkable. As we ended the interview he talked about flying to
California for the next set of gigs. He expressed his fear of flying
to me and nervously asked, "I'm gonna be okay, right?"
I just laughed and said, "Yeah Frank, you're gonna be just
fine."
Extra
special thanks to Frank & Denise Marino and their lovely family
for giving me the opportunity to conduct this interview, and enriching
my life with their beautiful spirit. Thank you.
www.mahoganyrush.com
www.myspace.com/frankmarinoandmahoganyrush
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